It’s time for the great reversal!!

Brain McLaren takes the roll of the interviewer and turns to me for the A’s to the Q’s. It was a blast.

Personally I am extremely honored that Brian not only watched (and enjoyed) my film, The Road to Edmondbut that he took the time to plan a fun conversation about it. You will learn a bit about the movie production, writing, acting and such, but also hear us wrestle with the topics the film itself tackles.

Hopefully the conversation inspires you to go watch the film this month (Feb 2019), while it is available for your streaming pleasure at

Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is an Auburn Senior Fellow and a leader in the Convergence Network, through which he is developing an innovative training/mentoring program for pastors, church planters, and lay leaders called Convergence Leadership Project. He works closely with the Center for Progressive Renewal/Convergence, the Wild Goose Festival and the Fair Food Program‘s Faith Working Group.